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Effect seems to be a popular word on the forum.

First time effect, similar effect, novelty effect, collateral effect, duality effect, medication effect, draining effect, natural effect, adversely effect, no effect, significant effect, ignorant effect, dumb ass effect, effect this effect that….. And so on for over 575 entries. Got bored after a dozen or so pages of the same.

However, there does not seem to be much use of the term “effect” in a cue.

We know “cause” in a cue is acceptable and works. (If applied correctly)

My question is: Does the term “effect” work in a cue just as well?

For example: Planet Earth / next geomagnetic storm / effect

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First ask yourself how the Matrix would adjudicate the word/idea pattern 'geomagnetic storm.' Probably something analogous to 'terrorist attack.'

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In the past, my RV group has effectively employed the cue qualifier most significant short-term personal effect.

(paraphrase: my next visit to a certain location) / most significant short-term personal effect

Resulting data may be complex, when using this, and may require advanced/experienced, analytical skills.

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Ed and Jeff,

Not ignoring you. Just a very busy day. Will get to a reply later this evening. (PDT)

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Tiger74 wrote:
In the past, my RV group has effectively employed the cue qualifier most significant short-term personal effect.

(paraphrase: my next visit to a certain location) / most significant short-term personal effect

Resulting data may be complex, when using this, and may require advanced/experienced, analytical skills.

-Jeff


What sort of answer would this cue get? I'm having trouble with here would one us it instead of a trajectory cue.


Sun Mar 27, 2016 1:42 am
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Hi Ed and Jeff,

I did see part of a post you were involved in earlier. Most of it dealt with CME’s and earthquakes. There was discussion concerning their relation. As I remember it was back in 2012. And a few persons including: Ed, Jeff, Brett, kocmodpom, Dan Ellis, yourself, DaingMaing and nelsontr were discussing it. In fact Bstuart mentioned the term geomagnetic storm in a post dated: Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:26 pm . Thread: Post Re: How to Cue - Interaction Between CME and Seismic Activit. http://rvcommunity.net/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=9655&hilit=earthquake+cue&start=0

You were on the right track concerning the earthquakes (there is a relation, and yes it can be shown), however, unless I missed it, there was nothing posted as to the results of that inquiry.

Ed is probably right, but in answer to your question Ed, here is part of my reasoning for selecting the term “geomagnetic storm.”

There are several things that can cause a geomagnetic storm, including a CME. In relation to a CME here is how it works: “CME - solar winds directed at planet Earth - solar wind hits Earth’s magnetosphere - geomagnetic disturbance on Earth.”

Not sure yet how the Matrix adjudicates the term “geomagnetic storm,” but, here is how NOAA defines the term. Briefly, NOAA has divided geomagnetic disturbances into the K & Kp index. The Kp-Index is from 0-9. (0 (quiet) to 9 (severely disturbed). Kp has been divided into three categories with storms being the third. Storms being further subdivided into three levels. (GOES satellites monitor and sends signals to NOAA) The “storms” are classified as “minor, major or severe.” “Storms” start at Kp 5 and go up from there. (Kp index > 4)

This data is reduced to reports that are used worldwide by: Aviation, Electric Power, Emergency management, Global Positioning System, Radio, Satellites & companies and so on. In the reports geomagnetic storms are simply referred to as “storm.” Unfortunately, NOAA does not say much about the effect on global weather including earthquakes and volcanoes. However, they do have that link.

Here are a few links for those that would like to brush up on the above:
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/content/space-weather-glossary#g
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/phenomena/geomagnetic-storms
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-index
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetic_storm

The GOES magnetometer reading gives additional information.

So, a geomagnetic disturbance on Earth could be the result of a CME or other factor causing the disturbance. All CME’s do not cause “geomagnetic storms.” Geomagnetic disturbance, yes, but, not necessarily a storm. A storm is when the disturbance reaches a certain level and above. (according to NOAA)

Together, all of these currents, CME’s and others, and the magnetic deviations they produce on the ground is where this is going.

In conclusion:

1. A CME is not the only thing that can cause a geomagnetic disturbance on Earth.
2. A “geomagnetic storm” has a precise definition. (according to NOAA) and probably is accepted worldwide.
3. The effect of the indicated “geomagnetic storm” on planet Earth is the goal of the above suggested cue.
4. That goal is only the beginning.

That might be a flocked up line of thinking, but, there it is.

Jerry H

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"accepted worldwide" ≠ 'Matrix acceptance'

You're on your own, buddy. Experiment (i.e., lot's and lot's of RV session work)

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Ed Dames wrote:
"accepted worldwide" ≠ 'Matrix acceptance'

...... Experiment .....


Yes, since the term has not been properly vetted by RV/the Matrix, now is a very good time to start. Currently there is a strong solar wind on the way to Earth. Not sure yet if it will cause a geomagnetic storm, but a good time to test the above cue. At the present time there is only a 40% chance of a severe storm in the next 24-48 hours.

A gaseous canyon has opened up in the sun's atmosphere, and it is spewing solar wind toward Earth. It should reach Earth on March 28-29. The stream will be preceded by a co-rotating interaction region or "CIR." A CIR tends to contribute to geomagnetic storms.

Going to work on it.

Ed Dames wrote:
'geomagnetic storm.' Probably something analogous to 'terrorist attack.'


The term “geomagnetic storm” has been on this forum since around September of 2005. The term itself has been in use since around 1939. So, it’s possible it has been adjudicated similar to the Matrix adjudication of the word-idea terrorist.

Again, as above, it needs RV work. (topical search and so on)

Thank you.

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One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter

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