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Ed Dames wrote:
Note to Kiwi and Sector:

You have both placed yourselves in the catbird seat re. this particular RV problem set.

Act fast -- or become as if you never were, in this 'RV Forum' cyberspace environ. Your 'RV future' is now on the line.

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Sir,

First. I hope she'll be okay.

It's not "catbird seat", it's my surprise to don't know why no one has yet wanted to use this subject for an RV project. A plane missing for 5 full days and no clues. For me, it's a perfect project for very advanced and profesionals RVers in this forum, not for real-rv-noobs like me.


@Tiger:
Engine in water/ocean does not necessarily mean "crash"; whoever-they caused this, they could pull the plane to the sea after landing, or dismantle / destroy the plane to remove evidence.
(Yes, Also I think I've seen too many James Bond movies. And yes, maybe "whoever-they" doesn't exist and this is just an accident )

Maybe the option "choose a random passenger and mark him as a target in the flight manifest" it's the best choice.

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Post Re: Where is MH370 ?
Drop 'crash'

(There is a photo of the first officer on the web, and now we possibly have a photo of the airplane - so many ways to practically attack the problem, instead of just studying it to death)

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Sector wrote:
@Tiger:
Engine in water/ocean does not necessarily mean "crash"; whoever-they caused this, they could pull the plane to the sea after landing, or dismantle / destroy the plane to remove evidence.

Yes, that is why I said it seemingly confirms a crash. Unless you want to go further down the conspiracy rabbit hole.

Sector wrote:
Maybe the option "choose a random passenger and mark him as a target in the flight manifest" it's the best choice.

In a scenario such as you suggested, any of the passengers could be anywhere by now. Now that I think about it, I would definitely go with my option 2 and forget about option 1 for now.

And I'm not sure of the best way to use the photo as TRM for my option 2. I'll give it some more thought after I eat my sausage/eggs. I'm famished.


Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:17 pm
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F**k it, seems like is a real MH370 plane's photo. Let's see how deep is that rabbit hole, and please share some sausage/eggs.

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Ed Dames wrote:
Drop 'crash'


From what.. this cue? Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 crash / primary cause

That wouldn't make sense, unless you mean for us to drop the idea of a crash. We could also replace the word with 'disappearance', but I'm not sure how solid that is. If we target anyone's location/disposition, I vote for the most 'suspicious' pilot.


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Post Re: Where is MH370 ?
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/malaysia-recruits-witch-doctors-find-missing-passenger-jet-article-1.1720770#ixzz2vwIXlgq7

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@DaingMaing, maybe you're thinking of your disposing of the skulls of whatever lands in your pot. When not part of a deliberate course of action, a skull is usually the last or least likely thing to disintegrate completely even in devastating circumstances. The Major's choice of targeting that reflects a heuristic decision which should work in all but the most unusual scenarios. I'd be interested in learning though if in previous, similar cases, targeting the flight recorder was tried and found less than ideal? Maybe identification or chain of custody problems?

@Tiger74, I'd posit that hinging on the disappearance instead of the crash should have a higher probability of giving us information that is actually interesting. To just say it out loud, don't we like to know if the plane was perhaps abducted first.

At any rate, the most effective approach should be one simple, concise way of targeting that lets the Matrix choose what is most important or interesting about this particular case. This way we should get what sets it apart first.

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Well, if my cues are not the best idea, there is always the option of a topical search to see what comes out.

"Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370"


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Or even use the above photo, in quotes, as a topical search?


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For God's sake, man -- locate the target! Geeeez....

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This was related to me from Singapore yesterday...
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/-mh370--klia--bomoh--stunt-spawns-parodies-120112621.html

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[nnn2/nnn2] nnn1/nnn1 / location


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Location now. Do it!

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The above location targeting material/cue is now formalized, in a folder.
Anyone who can hit this is encouraged.
I will post it in advanced projects.

ps. I thought location defaulted to location now, but maybe that was just for GeoFix cues.


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Good luck, P.M.s

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Post Re: Where is MH370 ?
It's 5:30 in the morning at E97.5 degrees longitude right now.
Does it matter that our target may be in darkness at the moment we RV it versus a few hours later when there is more light?

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@richardg, depends on depth whether it makes a difference. Sunlight penetrates only so much water. But many others have targeted buried objects or locations. In project BLUEVEST we targeted Lake Vostok under the Antarctic ice shield. Lack of actual light doesn't seem to be an obstacle to Remote Viewing since information is transmitted in a much different way.

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Ed, I would have loved to take this on! Thank you for the vote of confidence I perceive in your offer of the opportunity to manage a project. But like I said earlier I have zero availability at present. Little available time to sleep even - so not much good to you right now. But I want this to happen.

KFA & Tiger are up for it I see. That is excellent!! The project is in good hands.

To me it is seems like it will be a classic RV project. Good on anyone who takes it on. One with a strong possibility of verification too, given that no passenger plane on a scheduled flight like this one over the past few decades has ever vanished off the face of the earth. So far as I am aware.

I look forward to the results. If this plane is still an unknown in 6 days time when life goes back to some kind of normal in my neck of the woods I will be giving it a shot myself.

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http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking-ne ... ib-2014031
http://www.themalaysiantimes.com.my/con ... ansponder/

Local sources told me that this talk about "new data" is given little credibility throughout the region and that Malaysian authorities knew all along the plane had left its course, and thus by withholding information they misled the search efforts for days. This is far from over...

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Post Re: Where is MH370 ?
Something I do not understand is how a plane can be silent and off route for 5 hours without setting off any alarms, civil or military.

@kfa: no rumours about any military jet deployed?

Timeline: http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missin ... jet-n47641

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DaingMaing wrote:
The photo file is attached to this posting below.


If I may make a suggestion ... I have over 10 years as an Airline Transport Pilot, the latter of that experience working for a major US airline.

The photo referenced previously may be a generic photo of a similar Malaysia Airlines B-777. I would expect that for RV purposes, we would want a photo of the specific aircraft, with registration # 9M-MRO, as referenced in the link below. This photo appears to be 9M-MRO in Paris, at an earlier date.

Ed, correct me if I'm off base, please.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_370

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/9MMRO

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XJP5 -

Of course your assumption is correct:

If the photo is not of the specific airplane in question, it is worthless as TRM -- it will corrupt/destroy any RV investigation into the problem.

That photo should have been/should be validated as accurate TRM before engaging in related RV work.

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Tomorrow, I will personally turn my RV attention to what transpired on this particular flight (cf., e.g., my Egypt Air Flight 990 findings -- it's certain that I will be asked the question on C2C, Monday or Tuesday evening, "What happened").

Our chief problem, as technically proficient RVers, vis-à-vis the subject at hand, is which cue/Matrix search term(s) to employ in this RV investigation-cum-event recreation.

I'll sleep on it; will figure out a good problem attack strategy, along with cross-checks.

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Post Re: Where is MH370 ?
Thank you Major. I've located a confirmed hi-res photo of the actual aircraft, if any of you would like to employ it into your project. The registration number is clearly visible on the aft section of the fuselage.

Good hunting.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/48/Boeing_777-200ER_Malaysia_AL_(MAS)_9M-MRO_-_MSN_28420_404_(9272090094).jpg


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Ah-ha! That's the ticket! Great project input -- thanks.

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