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Norbert77
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 Re: Project BASELINE
Marlin Turner wrote: After we have completed Project PHAETHON, I will follow up on this project with some movement exercises. I'm interested in pursuing, if you make a ten send it to me
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Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:44 pm |
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f_angel
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 Re: Project BASELINE
Hello all... I happened to run this one myself. Needed something other than my typical focus. I'll post my session results shortly, but I wanted to chime in on something before I completed that. My session work is similar to what everyone has here. [X] as a circle, motion ("energy transfer", "transforming matter-frequency", "displacement", "through") between another circle (which could also be the first circle from a different perspective). One circle has motion associated with it, while the other seems to have motion emanating from it. Ok, great. Awesome. Excited to see what this is. However, what intrigues me the most is the collective AIs. The predominant emotion here isn't full of pleasantries or awe. It is cautionary with a foreshadowing of negative events. For me, I had an entire aspect dedicated to these negative emotions (yeah, weird me). The aspect was represented as a giant "X" over everything. I was quite surprised to see the cue, considering. Don't think this is something I would invest into,  . Here's a few terms from my S4 on this aspect: 'no' 'do not' S4.5 'not interesting' S4.5 'not appropriate' avoid caution symbolic warning S4.5 stern warning S4.5 beyond comprehension S4.5 damage to future understandings ai- curious ai- cautious S4.5 disruptive to normal course of development S4.5 too much too soon ei- thankful S4.5 'pat on the head' ai- confused My gross interpretation of this is that it felt like something that overgrown bipedal primates shouldn't be screwing around with yet, because it was damaging to do so. Not necessarily damaging to the environment (although that's quite possible) but damaging to ones (presumably the operators or developers) future understandings. As if they were playing with something they didn't quite understand. A parable might be, hey kids, don't play with the dilithium crystals, first you'll probably blow yourself up, second, you're not ready to be a warp capable society yet. I'm not saying this is Star Trekkish in any matter, just adding analogy/story to the interpretation. I find it intriguing that this is someone's optimum investment. Perhaps you and I have radically different idealogical viewpoints, heh. In any case... I'd like to hear more interpretation on the AIs to see if that could help hasten target identification. Raptor : "The sight makes me feel imprisoned" Norbert : "I also had EI-shrieks" Nelson : "It is like an 'omen'. It makes me feel fired up." Nelson : "This process reaches a point of no return where the controls applied no longer have any effect, and at the same time, causes a series of chain reactions. (visually, such substance reaching unpredicted trajectories). It could be considered an accident because of the diverse negative emotions throughout the sessions. There is a feeling that what happened you could see it coming." Marlin, What type of personality do you have that would have you invest in such a thing?! My curiosity is piqued. Are you a cold-science-engineering type? a new-agey bard that beams jovial tales of laughter? a corporate raider? tree hugger? pediatric dentist? In any case, despite no one yet discussing this, it seems relevant. ... both the interesting emotions... and Marlin's personal predilections... --A
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Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:30 am |
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Norbert77
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 Re: Project BASELINE
Interesting angle on the emotions. If the cue was a specific person/ near term investment I would agree, but this was a cue for all of us, or so I understood.
1917/9510] Optimum near-term investment
If it's for all of us then there is something that's a side-effect. I'm sticking with minerals, I' was thinking something radioactive or will be made radioactive, that is kind of the genie out of the bottle. The world has 440+ nuclear plants, plants need fuel, people need energy. Is the Chernobyl property market is opening up soon?
Are we too front loaded to attempt some locating sessions?
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Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:32 am |
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Ed Dames
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 Re: Project BASELINE
Hold on, Norbert, I've been tied up and have not yet initiated promised Geofix work. Give me a day or so.
I'm surprised at Angel's surmise, The (implied) vs. My being distinctly different operators.
Ed
_________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take...but by the moments that take our breath away" (Don't be afraid that your life will end -- be afraid that it will never begin)
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Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:54 am |
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Norbert77
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 Re: Project BASELINE
Ed Dames wrote: Hold on, Norbert, I've been tied up and have not yet initiated promised Geofix work. Give me a day or so.
I'm surprised at Angel's surmise, The (implied) vs. My being distinctly different operators.
Ed We're all busy with other projects and things in life, understandable if anyone misses anything. Ed, if you need a hand with geofix, teach me I will work for you
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Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:10 pm |
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Raptor
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 Re: Project BASELINE
Ed Dames wrote: Hold on, Norbert, I've been tied up and have not yet initiated promised Geofix work. Give me a day or so. [...] Hopefully the instructions for Geofix are included in your Will. You never know. Marlin Turner wrote: After we have completed Project PHAETHON, I will follow up on this project with some movement exercises. Count me in.
_________________ "The universe [...] is written in mathematical language, and the letters are triangles, circles and other geometrical figures, without which means it is humanly impossible to comprehend a single word." Galileo Galilei
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Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:54 pm |
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Ed Dames
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 Re: Project BASELINE
Not only are aspects of the 'Rosetta syndrome' also attendant with RV Geofix targeting but, in many cases, steering and timing issues also arise.
For experienced TRVers, Geofix (HARV) techniques are not difficult to understand and learn. However, execution is perhaps more stringent, in some ways, than TRV. Thankfully, though, AOC...I mean AOL, is not a factor in Geofix work.
_________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take...but by the moments that take our breath away" (Don't be afraid that your life will end -- be afraid that it will never begin)
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Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:57 am |
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Ed Dames
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 Re: Project BASELINE
Well, Norbert, since I own 35% of the book rights to Cosmic Voyeur...Voyage, I guess that I'm that percentage culpable for your present state of mind affairs. (A very similar 'bookstore book thing' happened to me when I was 34 - Urantia Book, in my case). We'll see what's going on in your mind, later, my friend (if the 'what' doesn't lead you to self-destruct, first). Your honesty, or that of 'your daemon' - or of 'you' both...whatever - has captured not only my curiosity, but my heart. Hell, what good is a friend anyway, if he doesn't show up to actually be one. In the meantime, if you're 'on something,' cease and desist - worst of all is 'diet sodas!' Imbibe only 'natural' beverages, sans all those nasty, poisonous, mind-altering laboratory produced chemicals. Such a time-tested regime is certain to kill soul-feeding parasites and/or help to slough off any deeply ensconced mind retainers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E9ydw_aDMgAlternatively, allow me to extract (via MIA proprietary 'field expedient' methods) that 'thing' inside of you and take it into myself (forget that Hollywood exorcist bodily discomfort hyperbole crap - I know how to do it right). Then you could return to some semblance of a 'diffused,' vapid, jejune, beyond-droll, 'normal' birth-to-death pre-Cosmic comic life - and I and whatever 'it' is can go party down like there is no tomorrow - a truly win-win proposal! What say of you, Canuk bro - how lit it that!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h7fcdN6bWYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoO4rJjQWjI
_________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take...but by the moments that take our breath away" (Don't be afraid that your life will end -- be afraid that it will never begin)
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Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:09 am |
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Norbert77
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 Re: Project BASELINE
Sir, you teaching me TRV has already saved my father's life, my own too and that I cannot ever put a price on. Your skill has allowed me to look at my own optimum health trajectory which pre-emptively caught a malfunctioning microwave owen that short-circuited, possibly saving my pets' lives as It was a fire waiting to happen, I'm sure of it. For all that I'm more grateful than you can imagine --I've said on this forum before and I will say it again-- if you need me anywhere in the world at any time, I shall make every effort to be there. Of you can get this demon out of me, even better
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Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:34 pm |
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f_angel
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 Re: Project BASELINE
Quote: I'm surprised at Angel's surmise, The (implied) vs. My being distinctly different operators. Wow. Thank you, Ed. I edited/added the detail of "my" having assumed it being a personalized cue rather than a generalized one. My error. Thanks for pointing it out. (details matter, derp.. my fault.. always learning.. apparently Marlin I'm the weird one...  ). Okay, preventable errors aside, This gives me even further pause reflecting on these results. 1) I am inclined to discount my own session work based on how odd it is that negative site emotion would appear like that on a generalized cue. 2) I am not inclined to discount my own session work because there is correlation with negative emotions/outcomes with other session work. 3) I am unpleasantly intrigued on how a generalized cue with the term optimum would appear to have perceivably negative emotions/outcomes. 4) Anecdotal: my optimum investment appears to be an extraction-machine of some sort, but does not appear thus far to have similar mechanical properties as this outcome does. However, I have not followed up on my own session work yet. Also, I am personally not (yet) committed to Project BASELINE's session results being an extraction machine, but it does seem to involve transport and/or transformation of something. Would love to see a few follow on movements to elucidate additional detail (eg, purpose of [] SBP, output of [] SBP, material output of [] SBP ... ) Getting back to point #3, I'm going to throw out a postulate and would love to hear additional feedback from the group: If the optimum investment is reflecting negative site emotions the fulcrum of "optimum" may be precariously balanced on juxtaposed outcomes. For example, despite what appear to be negative 'warning signs' (... and in my session's case 'do not do this' signs ...) the value of the investment may exceed the value of human-life/safety. However, this also appears to be contextual, as my session work does not concur with this. Personally speaking, I generally place a high value on the sanctity of living organisms. However, this cue was not personal. Perhaps this is why my negative emotions were separated as an independent aspect, as if the Matrix is conveying, "this is the optimum investment, but hey buddy, this one doesn't apply to you". Perhaps in regards to this 'investment', the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. It also seems, regardless of optimum for most people, that may not be an ideology I personally would subscribe to. Since there are other investments the Matrix could have chosen from... this one still came out as the 'global' optimum. Presumably, from the perspective of the Matrix, it is truly optimum for the benefit of ... [the human race?] in regards to investment. Maybe the best outcome is for us dumb apes to make a few mistakes to learn from. Sometimes the child needs to touch the hot stove to learn. While this is possible, I am currently more inclined to the previous point in that I have a personal aversion to whatever this is. Or, maybe as Ed has pointed out countless times, I think too deeply about s*** for my own good.--A
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Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:16 pm |
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Ed Dames
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 Re: Project BASELINE
There is such a thing (I encountered it often in 'my former life') as studying a problem to death.
_________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take...but by the moments that take our breath away" (Don't be afraid that your life will end -- be afraid that it will never begin)
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Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:38 pm |
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Ed Dames
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Now finishing up Geofix work. Stand by.
_________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take...but by the moments that take our breath away" (Don't be afraid that your life will end -- be afraid that it will never begin)
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Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:41 am |
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Ed Dames
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_________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take...but by the moments that take our breath away" (Don't be afraid that your life will end -- be afraid that it will never begin)
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Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:52 am |
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Norbert77
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 Re: Project BASELINE
Very interesting indeed, with Biden already wanting to sign the USA up for the paris climate Accord, it doesn't quite make sense. Biden already shut down the keystone Pipeline, I'm sure he's got more environmental things to sign into law. Unless he wants to sell call to china, but I'm not sure that would work out.
At this point I have a vague idea what might be happening, for that we need to go back to the original session and identify the mineral that's being drilled for. It's not coal. All the words said it is something precious and guarded, nobody would guard a coal mine let alone the product.
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Sat Jan 23, 2021 2:22 pm |
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Ed Dames
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Speculating, but if grids go down - for some reason... Optimum investment (money 2000-2020): Au > Ag > seed packets > guns/ammo > coal? (near-term)https://www.bibalex.org/SCIplanet/en/Ar ... %20Boulton. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalhttps://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/barte ... guns-ammo/
_________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take...but by the moments that take our breath away" (Don't be afraid that your life will end -- be afraid that it will never begin)
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Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:18 pm |
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Norbert77
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When the big snow storm knocked out power to toronto, a city of 4 million, there were thousands of people making fires in their living room and a lot died from carbon monoxide poisoning and a lot of houses got set on fire. I don't think people know what coal is, or even know how to music properly. I wonder how close coal is related to carbon, see if super high pressure and heated coal can be turned into a diamond. Most coal deposits do show quartz and pyrite which is traditionally found when mining for gold.
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Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:22 pm |
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Ed Dames
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Did you eat breakfast this morning, or take the bus? https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/incoherent
_________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take...but by the moments that take our breath away" (Don't be afraid that your life will end -- be afraid that it will never begin)
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Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:51 am |
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Norbert77
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It's not incoherent, if the kill shot were to strike people wouldn't know enough to know where to get call or how to get it, most City people wouldn't even know how to use it. Most people in the country would rely on trees for fire. We are looking at a coal mine, but coal mines can be a source of gold, which of this covered could make that mine a whole lot more valuable than it is.
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Sun Jan 24, 2021 5:13 pm |
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cbutter
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We shouldn't over-think this. Go back to the cue-- near term. My read of this geofix data, to integrate it with what we have already: the coal industry will be systematically, effectively, shut down (with the quick swipe of a pen), which will subsequently displace current energy demand to various alternatives, of which the primary (immediate) beneficiaries will be existing oil & gas production/refining/transport/logistics. https://money.usnews.com/investing/stoc ... -pipelines
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Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:24 pm |
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Ed Dames
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_________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take...but by the moments that take our breath away" (Don't be afraid that your life will end -- be afraid that it will never begin)
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Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:57 pm |
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Marlin Turner
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I will re-work the cue in about sixty to ninety days and see if the Matrix offers up something different. I am almost afraid to look but........
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Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:02 pm |
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Norbert77
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Funny story, the group I work with was tasked with the exact same cue but different TRN. With permission from the outer group, here it is.   Before the analysis, gotta say it's a strange session, almost too good as if I was way off. The aspects come together as if chapters in a book, or multiple parts/causes of an event. Aspect X when drawing the session made me feel as if I was in a headwind or looking into a snow blower. I felt both AI submissive and AI curious. I also felt other emotions, e i - calm and ei-observant. Something like a grinder is melting something and Sparks are flying, it is a metaphor for something happening. There's a wheel that has to do with disruption, and I get the idea it's like s4.5 -like bowling. For aspect a I had two distinct feelings, one was that this is not good enough and the other was that it's like crying over spilled milk, both these feelings came while I was sketching out the word ideas in S3. I feel AI pessimistic. Other emotions are EI- downtrodden and EI - miserable. It makes me feel as if there's a structure in a settlement, maybe a structured settlement, and there's a decision happening. S 4.5 - take it and leave it sums up what should be happening but somebody is miserable. Something here wasn't deserved but whoever needs to hear this should carpe diem which means seize the day Aspect B looks to me like somebody looking in a mirror and seeing a completely different view from reality, I had the AOL as a matter of perspective, as if somebody looking in a mirror is seeing a much bigger or stronger or more hurt version of themselves. I feel a i- sober and cautious. Somebody here is disciplined. Something is being rationalized and somebody keeps harping about something, as in something that's bothering them but they can't let it go. It feels as if the man looking in the mirror is akin to a boxer judging his skills thinking he is much better, but the AOL dude is going to lose that fight is on his mind not realizing it's him. Aspect C looks to me like somebody running into a brick wall and rebounding, I had the idea that they could have gone anywhere else but they didn't look. That was an AOL because the idea was out of place but the feeling still remains. kind of like in driver's education, they tell you to look where you want to go and he can't look elsewhere other than this brick wall. It is a man who is middle-aged with unresolved issues. He can't let it go even though he needs a fresh start. His Emotions are EI self-destructive. S4.5 - no fault of his own. What he should do is kind of like play the lottery, take a chance and move on.
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Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:56 pm |
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Norbert77
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 Re: Project BASELINE
Does it appear to anyone as if we are looking at an industrial accident?
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Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:47 pm |
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Ed Dames
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As a near-term investment!?
_________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take...but by the moments that take our breath away" (Don't be afraid that your life will end -- be afraid that it will never begin)
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Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:40 pm |
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Norbert77
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Ed Dames wrote: As a near-term investment!? Why not? Prices could severely drop as investors flee, good time to buy up
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Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:32 pm |
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